tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post3822514655254767806..comments2024-01-24T14:39:44.820-06:00Comments on Darkmatters: FLATIRONDarkmattershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-43977275900378556682012-04-15T01:09:09.622-05:002012-04-15T01:09:09.622-05:00Oh man, some really good information on this threa...Oh man, some really good information on this thread; things of import to think about and try out. Maybe it would be good to put up a "Lighting Techniques" or "Sculpting with Lighting" thread? Maybe in a "Composition" thread? <br /><br />One thing which fascinates me about cinematography vs painting is that the composition (and of course lighting is a big part of that) has to work for MOVEMENT within the scene. The difference between painting comp and cine comp is like the difference between playing regular chess and three-dimensional chess.Martin de Madridhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00260468655886858259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-62935284485063698702007-10-18T14:26:00.000-05:002007-10-18T14:26:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-39244017944421549832007-10-18T03:28:00.000-05:002007-10-18T03:28:00.000-05:00That's something I want to try one day, when I hav...That's something I want to try one day, when I have a big enough animation table.... the way cinematographers tend to do things.... light the set first and then the actors. For this set, so small and with that massive mirror behind everything, pretty much one light does everything! Maybe two to get light to both ends of the set. But each light provides its own rim lighting (reflected off the mirror) and does all kinds of crazy things to vex me.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-24264349983280225232007-10-18T02:55:00.000-05:002007-10-18T02:55:00.000-05:00I talked to Misha today, who is kind of out of the...I talked to Misha today, who is kind of out of the loop of discussion at SMA.com's boards, but he said something that stuck with me... <BR/><BR/>When I asked him why Moral Orel does not employ much shallow focus in the show, he said that it is much easier to tell a story when as much as possible is in focus. <BR/><BR/>I suggested sculpting the puppet textures with lighting and flatlighting any background elements or details that are too distracting from the foreground; he thought that was a good idea.<BR/><BR/>So if you ever have background detail work competing with that of the foreground puppets or set pieces, flat-light the sucker! <BR/><BR/>This all goes back to stage lighting principles, of course. Hopefully, Barry Purves has tackled that in his new book which is set to be released this winter.<BR/><BR/>Another interesting thing I noticed, is that in a lot of Vinton's stuff, there is no back lighting on the characters. Most of it is pretty flatly (cartoonishly) lit with a subtle key and fill that blend seamlessly together.<BR/><BR/>This is most apparent on the Cecile sequences. (See Tennessee's recent blog posts)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-80937059468574908622007-10-17T23:54:00.000-05:002007-10-17T23:54:00.000-05:00Hmmm.... John Ford eh? That is interesting, though...Hmmm.... John Ford eh? That is interesting, though in a way there's a strong similarity. Kura was making "Eastern westerns". Ford's heros are always tough loners on the outside of society, held together by their tough-guy code, like Kurasawa's samurai.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-23469581540412922007-10-17T23:50:00.000-05:002007-10-17T23:50:00.000-05:00I'm still using the good old Hitachi HV-C20. Looks...I'm still using the good old Hitachi HV-C20. Looks like I'll be getting a new lens for it on ebay tomorrow though... give it a nice boost of confidence. Like getting it a new pair of kickass hiking boots or something.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-32255633806426458642007-10-17T12:05:00.000-05:002007-10-17T12:05:00.000-05:00Even more interesting, Kurasawa was in love with J...Even more interesting, Kurasawa was in love with John Ford American Westerns!<BR/><BR/>Are you going to fil us in on your camera choice? Is it new?Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-30365832853772897112007-10-16T21:26:00.000-05:002007-10-16T21:26:00.000-05:00Yeah, Kurasawa is truly godlike! So much so that H...Yeah, Kurasawa is truly godlike! So much so that Hollywood remade 7 Samurai as The Magnificent 7, and Sergio Leone remade Yojimbo almost frame for frame as Fistful of Dollars. <BR/><BR/>A lot of movies mix the techniques for different reasons, which makes sense. I'll tell ya what.... it's a nice freedom to have the camera way back to allow the animator free access to the set..... it can be really frustrating to have to reach around it while it's 6 inches from a puppet, and the incessant need to not bump the camera while you work. Ah the sacrifices we make for our art!Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-71403764932953885222007-10-16T12:53:00.000-05:002007-10-16T12:53:00.000-05:00Depth DEPTH D.E.P.T.H.!!!!!!! depth. LOVE it in th...Depth DEPTH D.E.P.T.H.!!!!!!! depth. LOVE it in the second shot! WOW! And that mirror?! It looks so awesome behind Cosmo I can't stand it! I sure hope you manage to keep it under all the shelves and botts. I also love how the set falls into blackness like that, so artful.<BR/><BR/>Kurosawa's Seven Samurai uses that flattening telephoto to fantasic effect but it makes sense for that tale. For yours I so dig the emotional involvement the depth is providing you. I want to feel these characters, walk among them. So tactile, so real!<BR/><BR/>This is going to be epic good.Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.com