tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post116599011007113873..comments2024-01-24T14:39:44.820-06:00Comments on Darkmatters: Another jewel of wisdom from Larry DeHaanDarkmattershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1166335839580161982006-12-17T00:10:00.000-06:002006-12-17T00:10:00.000-06:00Very good point! There are some fundamental differ...Very good point! <BR/><BR/>There are some fundamental differences... of course (generally speaking) music videos are like advertising vehicles for popular songs, or songs being hyped by the producers to be popular. There's usually a lot of lip syncing and shots of the band playing, which is very minimal in the Tool videos (maybe nonexistant in Prison Sex?). The Tool videos of course all stand out from the general crowd of music videos, they're obviously lovingly made by artists who are serious about doing some good work, like the Nine Inch Nails videos and a few of the other greats. And (at least to me) Tool's music is really good, though definitely a product of its time. They didn't begin as a popular band - I believe it was the sober video that put them on the map and then they became hugely famous and popular, spawning knock-offs and sound-alikes. <BR/><BR/>But as good as Tool's music was, and as well made as the videos were, somehow they just don't measure up to the level of most quay films (films, not music videos). And it seems to me it's because of the different nature of the music itself.... where as Tool was definitely making heavy metal music (popular genre) marketed toward contemporary teen culture, Jankowski and Stockhausen et al are much more 'arty' and closer to the tradition of modern classical (if there is such a thing). Much more evocative and haunting, lending itself more to a poignant film. <BR/><BR/>Well, I think all I've managed to do is clumsily repeat what Larry already said much more succinctly!Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1166334885795143452006-12-16T23:54:00.000-06:002006-12-16T23:54:00.000-06:00More from Larry:"One more observational comment co...More from Larry:<BR/><BR/><I>"One more observational comment concerning the music in the Quays films. Remember the interview, where the brothers likened music to blood! If it is blood which animates us, music to the Quays, would indicate to me that they conceive the music conjuctively with the filmic expression rather than an addendum to it, as is the case with the Tool videos, and most other MTV type music videos. On the other hand we know that the brothers have also made music videos ( Peter Gabriel,etc.) so they may be familier with both processes ? I think, perhaps that they create both simaltaneously and cannot, or do not conceive of them as seperate entities. this understanding I believe is what distinguishes them from the rest of the pack. "</I>Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1166246908536457742006-12-15T23:28:00.000-06:002006-12-15T23:28:00.000-06:00Yeah, somehow I suspect this one is going to be ex...Yeah, somehow I suspect this one is going to be extremely influential on my developing <I>philosophy of filmmaking. </I>Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1166235537895748772006-12-15T20:18:00.000-06:002006-12-15T20:18:00.000-06:00Cabinet of Dr Caligari is one of my fav's as far a...Cabinet of Dr Caligari is one of my fav's as far as the old silent films goes. Ever since that old thread on SMA when I first heard about it. It is surprising how many people have been influenced by that and the other German expressionist films.<BR/><BR/>This book looks great, if I didn't already have over 30 unread books on my bookshelf now I would order it too. It's definitely on my list once I get caught up.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for another great find. Thanks Mike and thanks Larry!mefullhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07027902750016300876noreply@blogger.com