tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post115292900013208389..comments2024-01-24T14:39:44.820-06:00Comments on Darkmatters: Kung fu - Cro Magnan styleDarkmattershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153425815542122852006-07-20T15:03:00.000-05:002006-07-20T15:03:00.000-05:00This site is one of the best I have ever seen, wis...This site is one of the best I have ever seen, wish I had one like this.<BR/><A HREF="http://credit_consumer_services.xabiv.be/consumer_credit_management_services.html" REL="nofollow">»</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153274517967688982006-07-18T21:01:00.000-05:002006-07-18T21:01:00.000-05:00Yeah, definitely!Yeah, definitely!Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153222787455999702006-07-18T06:39:00.000-05:002006-07-18T06:39:00.000-05:00Maybe it's an early Boris when he was still emulat...Maybe it's an early Boris when he was still emulating his hero? :)Hal Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13679447874426193665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153217622535269792006-07-18T05:13:00.000-05:002006-07-18T05:13:00.000-05:00Looked like a pretty weak Frazetta anyway.Looked like a pretty weak Frazetta anyway.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153198503841972042006-07-17T23:55:00.000-05:002006-07-17T23:55:00.000-05:00Whoah... sure enough! It's a Boris. D-oh! Thanks f...Whoah... sure enough! It's a Boris. D-oh! Thanks for the heads up.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153164508077734492006-07-17T14:28:00.000-05:002006-07-17T14:28:00.000-05:00Great post, thought-provoking as always. Minor not...Great post, thought-provoking as always. Minor note, the illo is by Boris, note his signature lower left. <BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work. You are an inspirationHal Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13679447874426193665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153164294283362042006-07-17T14:24:00.000-05:002006-07-17T14:24:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Hal Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13679447874426193665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153108230946188882006-07-16T22:50:00.000-05:002006-07-16T22:50:00.000-05:00Neato. I agree. And am glad to hear someelse say i...Neato. I agree. And am glad to hear someelse say it outloud.<BR/><BR/>Oooo, the big one, eh? How interesting that it shares elements with other "fellowship" deeply felt films. Either we are all making/seeing the same thing in our mind's eye, like the mashed potato replica of Devil's Tower in Close Encounters, or dipping our toes into the same pool of symbolic archetypes.Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153037172231753832006-07-16T03:06:00.000-05:002006-07-16T03:06:00.000-05:00Hey, I'm glad to share whatever knowledge i can wi...Hey, I'm glad to share whatever knowledge i can with you all! This is totally cool.... it's hard to believe that all of a sudden I have this close friendship with this tight-knit group of artists who are all motivated and seem to share a certain vision. For 5 years this is what I was hoping would happen on the message board... strangely ironic that instead it happens through our blogs. <BR/><BR/>I was thinking today about my future project that I think is going to be the big one for me... a film I haven't talked much about dealing with a witch and a litle girl... it shares certain elements in common with Halfland and Jenny G - namely there's a treehouse similar to Shelley's (but I think mine will be more tree than house) and it has an old crone and a little girl like Jeffrey's project. Not sure what that has to do with anything, but I just wanted to share.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153036482531412422006-07-16T02:54:00.000-05:002006-07-16T02:54:00.000-05:00I find the whole thing very relevant and helpful, ...I find the whole thing very relevant and helpful, both the Mikeness and the group collaboration towards our films. Bravo to the ----society.Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153034713351020612006-07-16T02:25:00.000-05:002006-07-16T02:25:00.000-05:00Sorry Mike... :-( My intended playful / impish q...Sorry Mike... :-( My intended playful / impish quasi-self-mocking tone didn't convey via text alone.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the pop-through idea. I'd heard of pop-throughs before, but had never thought of shooting on 10's / 3fps.<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>And because I don't think I've said it recently: thank you again for being such a fount of wisdom to us all. Your sharing your research and experience and enthusiasm is so enormously helpful!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153026806544975532006-07-16T00:13:00.000-05:002006-07-16T00:13:00.000-05:00"Well unless its Strider's House of Beefaroni, let...<I>"Well unless its Strider's House of Beefaroni, lets hope you're not a cook :)"</I><BR/><BR/>Well, I just assemble sandwiches, no cooking involved really. It's a sort of deli-type place. <BR/><BR/>Sounds like you're almost talking about pop-throughs. That's something Sven might want to think about as well. It's like a rough run-through shot on 10's, just to get a sense for the movement and the scene changes etc.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153026603493069092006-07-16T00:10:00.000-05:002006-07-16T00:10:00.000-05:00"Is that "Sven..." in the same tone of voice you u...<I>"Is that "Sven..." in the same tone of voice you used when I wrote a huge post about all my questions regarding aluminum wire?<BR/><BR/>The "Sven... You're making the simplest things complicated" voice?"</I><BR/><BR/>No, not at all! Sorry, I just like to use the three periods too much, sometimes it comes across more intensely than I planned.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1153021859946870482006-07-15T22:50:00.000-05:002006-07-15T22:50:00.000-05:00Well unless its Strider's House of Beefaroni, lets...Well unless its Strider's House of Beefaroni, lets hope you're not a cook :) I've put in 12 years in the restaurant biz so believe me I know how it is...and I've vowed never to return...<BR/>As far as the pose-to-pose stuff, I plan on putting together a sort of rough draft of the film using still shots similar to the Bait Series, telling the whole story in a sort of slideshow storyboard, and then figuring out the details from there...UbaTuberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15777541540454167277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1152978579799138422006-07-15T10:49:00.000-05:002006-07-15T10:49:00.000-05:00Is that "Sven..." in the same tone of voice you us...Is that "Sven..." in the same tone of voice you used when I wrote a huge post about all my questions regarding aluminum wire?<BR/><BR/>The "Sven... You're making the simplest things complicated" voice?<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/>(Thanks for the pointer to Youtube, btw. I've seen "dog" before... Unforgettable. I think if you open up my head, you can see the spot it cauterized!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1152951570332936022006-07-15T03:19:00.000-05:002006-07-15T03:19:00.000-05:00Yep, tons of em. I just checked. No Moral Orel yet...Yep, tons of em. I just checked. No Moral Orel yet though. Give it a month or two.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1152951407690293942006-07-15T03:16:00.000-05:002006-07-15T03:16:00.000-05:00Sven...Sounds sound to me. I hope to see any tests...Sven...<BR/><BR/>Sounds sound to me. I hope to see any tests you do with Percy or anybody else. I'll bet you can find Robot Chicken episodes on Youtube.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1152949983885713892006-07-15T02:53:00.000-05:002006-07-15T02:53:00.000-05:00[Ramble follows.]Quality of motion has been on my ...[Ramble follows.]<BR/><BR/>Quality of motion has been on my mind lately, too.<BR/><BR/>When I watch the bumble clip, it reminds me of Misha's "hall" clip. That, and a clip from Robot Chicken I just saw recently (I've seen almost none of that series -- just picked up the dvds so I can catch up on the phenomenon).<BR/><BR/>...It feels like Misha's motion and the Bumble's motion are both built out of strong poses -- and motion that almost pops the puppet from one pose to the next.<BR/><BR/>I've been thinking about how one could design motion based around such freeze-frames... You could use a still camera as a an aid -- just to play with capturing different ideas for poses.<BR/><BR/>Rhen you have the motions that get you *to* those poses. Pose, motion, pose, motion...<BR/><BR/>Y'know that penny exercise in Animator's Survival Guide? The one where you have the penny go across the screen several times using the same number of frames, but with different spacing? I've been thinking about doing that same exercise with a puppet... Like seeing how many different ways I could have Percy slam his hand down on a table.<BR/><BR/>Then, in addition to poses and quality-of-motion, add two more concepts, and I think things might start coming together...<BR/><BR/>How does the puppet hold itself in a relaxed state? Like how a football player holds themselves, versus how a ballerina does. That's your starting place for any outward action.<BR/><BR/>And then tics. Little behaviors that help make a character unique -- like how Uncle Ray made Mighty Joe Young pound his fist on the ground whenever he got mad.<BR/><BR/>So, it's an untested strategy for me at this point. But, y'know, any analysis and system of thought is probably a better starting point than just "animate forward".<BR/><BR/>Thesis: You can create dynamic animation by focusing on the following four areas...<BR/><BR/>(1) Poses. (2) Quality of motion that gets you from one pose to the next. (3) How the puppet holds themselves in a resting state. (4) Uniquifying tics / mannerisms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1152949426569750992006-07-15T02:43:00.000-05:002006-07-15T02:43:00.000-05:00Yeah, it kinda sucks the way the whole environment...Yeah, it kinda sucks the way the whole environment around that place has changed recently. And it's a sea change... everything from the top on down has shifted toward idiocy and foolishness. Motivated hardworking people who take pride in their work used to be the norm, but today they;re very rare exceptions. <BR/><BR/>But, that said, I actually do like everybody there, and we have a lot of fun together. It's possible to really like somebody even if you disapprove of them in some way. Hell... some of my best friends have been reprobates!Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25910439.post-1152946032926326042006-07-15T01:47:00.000-05:002006-07-15T01:47:00.000-05:00I see what you are saying, Mike. (Brilliantly as u...I see what you are saying, Mike. (Brilliantly as usual)<BR/><BR/>I hate to hear that you are in anything less than a supportive environment at work but I know that you bring yourself into everything and therefore derive great value out of anything. And you've also got us to share your crazy thoughts with.<BR/><BR/>Designing movements for stop motion performance, interesting. I also very much like Barry Purves emphasis on the puppet's "natural" intention for any action. If he takes off that coat is it done hurriedly or meticulously. Like any human actor; "What's his motivation?"Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.com